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republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
. the white house is saying publicly it will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't fall in line with the president's demands to raise taxes on the rich. the g.o.p. is pointing fingers, too. you don't have to look too hard in washington these days to see the fiscal cliff theater. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> the president is ready, willing and able, waiting to be able to sit down and seriously negotiate this. but they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer where we're going. >> some lawmakers are actually going back home to their districts. congress has little scheduled business for the rest of the week. house speaker john boehner is saying that's not going to stop negotiations though. in the meantime pentagon officials say the white house has ordered the military to start planning for the possibility of cutting $500 billion from its budget over the next decade in case no fiscal clif
closer to the fiscal cliff i think many republicans will realize it is an indefensible position to go back to their districts and say to 100% of their constituents, your taxes are going to go up because i was protecting 2%. >> okay. let me ask you about your party because one question is why is it so important to you, to the president, to other democrats that rates go up on the 2%, the wealthiest americans, because i know there are a lot of issues at play here, but it seems as though your side will not go anywhere until you get that. is that correct? >> no, look, what's important to me and to my party is that we reduce our debt. what's important is that we reduce our debt, but not on the backs of middle class and seniors. what's important is that we have debt reduction that is big, bold and balanced. to do that, you have to cut spending. we have already voted for $2 trillion in cuts. >> you won't budge on that 2%. i just want to make crystal clear that's the deal. >> we can negotiate. i'm all for talking and reasonable compromise, but it doesn't look like we're going to be able to get
-called fiscal cliff if taxes are not raised. >> the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no prospects in agreement that doesn't involve the raise going up on the top 2 percent. >> house speaker bane another a boehner and president obama have been talking by phone. not much progress was made. boehner says if he doesn't agree with the propose sal he has obligation to submit one of his own. >> the missing girl battling leukemia is safe and is being treated in new mexico. she was taken out of a hospital in phoenix. her mother took her. doctors are worried she could potentially get a deadly infection. the girl's father claims the hospital was to blame for a different infection which cost emily her right arm. he's refusing to tell police where she is in mexico. both parents could face criminal charges. >> shock, disgust and fear spread quickly on the campus of the university of -- one details the exact moment they realty lied they were in a major crisis. it reads subject emergency the shooter at the aurora mall last night was james holmes i am worried a
: the president's opening bid to avoid the fiscal cliff, already called a none starter by republicans including this $1.6 trillion in new taxes. 400billion in spending cuts, tbd specifically on that. a little extra cash for infrastructure spending, republicans call that stimulus. and a plea for new powers to raise the debt ceiling without having to go directly to congress. joe trippi is howard dean's former campaign manager and a fox news contributor. good to see you this morning. >> good to see you, jenna. jenna: as opening bids go what do you make of that one. >> it makes sense that this is the president's opening bid. republicans ran around saying his only answer is to raise taxes on the rich and play class warfare, and we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. so if the president says look, i want to raise taxes 1.6 trillion it should be no surprise. if you want to cut spending more put your specific cuts in medicare on the table and let's start having the negotiations. it makes sense to me that he would start low on the spending cuts and let the republicans take the hit, like he's
republicans send the president a fiscal cliff counter offer. but will it break the stalemate? plus, searching for answers. after police say a pro-football player murdered his girlfriend. then offed himself. >> this is a real tragedy, horrible tragedy. >> it's been a very big for our challenge and for our family. >> shepard: now, witnesses and police describing how it happened. >> they talked for a little bit and that's when he shot himself. >> tonight questions about the motive and what went down before the shooting began? >> plus, the race to save a little girl. >> we have searched for these -- the location of these individuals, both locally and out of state. >> a mother accused of sneaking her sick daughter out of the hospital and if doctors don't soon treat the girl, police say she could be dead within days. and wonder what you a dutches for her baby shower. prince william's wife kate is expecting a child. tonight great britain prepares to welcome a future monarch. but first from fox this monday night. the murder-suicide that has stunned pro-football. the kansas city chief players and fans
style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south dakota. >> and he was the second republican to do that this past week. joining congresswoman shelly moore of west virginia. while 2014 is a long way away, 2013 is just over the horizon. that's when new jersey's chris christie is up for re-election and the tough-talking republican governor's m
whether or not the federal government is preparing to go off the fiscal cliff in particular this administration. he answered unfortunately in the affirmative. here's tim. >> if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> we face no prospect of agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top two percent. >> brian: he also said he believes that the president needs to get control of the debt limit. that is a nonstarter. there is no way to get congress to give up control of debt limit. >> steve: republicans are saying let's cave and surrender on the tax issue. but coming up in 2013 we have leverage over the debt limit. remember the president of the united states his personal approval ratings went in the toilet. >> brian: as is the congress. >> steve: the congress didn't have as far to because they were close to the floor anyway. republicans say let's have leverage next time and the president said let's take that off of the table and from now on the president doesn't have to negotiate from congress. congress doesn't
to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans give in and raise taxes up to 39.6% on the wealthiest americans, did he hesitate in his response at all? no? >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go off the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. if there is no agreement that doesn't involve rates going up. >> gretchen: is that what the discussion is about? if you're watching the main stream media, it's about tax, tax, tax, tax. why are we taxing so much? because we really do have a spending problem. >> steve: or a deep hole. >> brian: i thought it was interesting. does geithner ever speak and make you feel better? all he does is -- i have a sense that it's something terrible is about to happen. having said that and this communication ability aside, i'm stunned to see him playing politics. he's flat out playing politics. he added if the president doesn't get his own way and get the power action undependentsed power to raise the debt limit and take it away from congress, that's also a nonstarter. since when is getting into that and saying if we don't raise taxes
to stay. >> thank you very much. what's next for the fiscal cliff debate? republicans are furious and president obama drawing a red line over middle class taxes. want to bring in steven moore with "the wall street journal." so, hello, sir. >> hi. >> let me show you, here is his new book on taxes and wealth in america. you wrote an opinion piece, steven, saying democrats only want one thing, higher taxes. you say democrats probably won't offer any serious spending cuts. why do you think that? there's no compromise in sight here? >> i just don't see it. you know, don, i was thinking a couple of weeks ago they would certainly reach an agreement, we wouldn't fall off the fiscal cliff, that people's taxes wouldn't go up in january. but now i'm not so certain about that. as you look at the negotiations so far and, look, my sources are on the republican side of the aisle, but what they're saying to me is this president doesn't want to deal from us, he want a surrender from us. so far what has been offered as jessica said has really been, you know, poison to the republicans. i'm not going
away from the so called fiscal cliff. a drastic combination of mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes that could plunge the united states back into a recession. while there are plenty of hard w0rds from both sides, some terms of a possible zeal are making the rounds. kate bolduan has been following the back and fourth. >> don't get too excited about that, there's only one way to avoid the fiscal cliff. spending cuts and tax hikes. house republicans and president obama need to strike a deal on reducing the national debt. they have soundly rejected a white house offer that included $1.6 trillion in revenue, $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings, as well as a permanent increase in the debt limit among other things. so far, the rhetoric has not softened. treasury secretary tim geithner arriving on capitol hill for high level talks, most notably with house speaker john boehner. >> good morning, everyone. >> how did it go? just listen. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious. about real spending cuts. >> a
fiscal cliff rather than cave to republican demands for a continued tax break for the wealthiest americans. he made the statement in an interview with cnbc. >> i want to understand the administration's position on raising taxes for the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. if republicans and not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no room for an agreement that the not involve the rates going up for the top 2%. >> speaking to a roundtable of corporate executives in washington, president obama said republicans' aid to examine the reality that tax rates will rise for the wealthiest americans. >> we have seen some movement in the last several days with some republicans. there has been a recognition that, maybe, they can accept some rate increases as long as is combined with a serious impediment reform and additional spending cuts. and if we can get the leadership on the republican side to take that kramer, to acknowledge that reality, then the numbers are actually not that far apart. another way of putting this is, we
. it gives republicans leverage. president obama has the leverage in the fiscal cliff fight. he's willing to let the tax go up on the middle class. on the debt increase he doesn't have the same leverage. bob woodward pointed out that tim geithner said to president obama if the republicans stick to their guns on the debt limit bill you cannot reto it. the consequences will be so clam to us that you cannot veto it. so obama would have capitulated. megyn: that's what simon is saying now. that we shouldn't put the country in that position. >> the only way we'll get action on this debt. we keep spending and spending and raising our debt by $6 trillion every obama term. that's what catastrophic. the republicans need to stick to the boehner rule. a dollar of spending cuts for every dollar in spending increases. why give in on taxes and the fiscal cliff fight when you will have all the leverage. megyn: simon? >> in the rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they p
us from going off the fiscal cliff. they said by the way we need to raise the debt limit and this new proposal of eliminating congress from the process of raising the debt limit. >> senator mcconnell has offered to have an up or down vote on this and democrats haven't taken him up on it. all of the spending reductions that simon cited in the 1990s were tied to the debt limit increase. it gives republicans leverage. president obama has the leverage in the fiscal cliff fight. he's willing to let the tax go up on the middle class. on the debt increase he doesn't have the same leverage. bob woodward pointed out that tim geithner said to president obama if the republicans stick to their guns on the debt limit bill you cannot reto it. the consequences will be so clam to us that you cannot veto it. so obama would have capitulated. megyn: that's what simon is saying now. that we shouldn't put the country in that position. >> the only way we'll get action on this debt. we keep spending and spending and raising our debt by $6 trillion every obama term. that's what catastrophic. the republicans
on the fiscal cliff with the deadline at the end of the month republicans are calling the white house's new proposal unrealistic, while president obama takes it on the road to rally support. joining me now isdom senator ben card enmember of the budget and finance committees. senator thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> let's talk take a look at probe's proposal. a $50 billion stimulus package. some have characterized this as a democrats' wish list. can you put into perspective how realistic this is? >> i think it is a realistic next step. remember we've already done close to $1 trillion in deficit reduction during the debt ceiling agreement. so we've gotten $1 trillion of discretionary domestic spending savings. it's time now to move on the revenues. quite frankly, i think the easiest next step, i would hope this could happen as early as this week, is to pass the continuation of the lower tax rates for those under $250,000 of taxable income. get that done. everyone agrees on it. it helps the holiday season. it gives confidence. we know we have to get beyond that. we know we also hav
. no date has been set for his discharge. >>> president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff to try to win concessions on raising the nation's borrowing limit. nbc's danielle lee is live on capitol hill this afternoon where a perfect storm over spending and borrowing and taxes is shaping up here at the end of the year. danielle? >> reporter: pat, that's a good way to describe it. both sides are digging in their heels, and with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff, or to raise the debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion, now there's new concern about what could happen to our credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strateg
cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimulus spending, and absolutely no expenditure reductions that are going to take place right now. i mean, from the point of view of republicans, you're going to get more spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume the middle class will look to the rawp republicans foe fact that their taxes come up so political check mate. >> i'm not so sure. president obama could avoid that very simply by putting maybe two or three to one expenditure reductions on the table for revenue increases, something like sim responsibl simpson bow. he has a formula given to him by a commission he appointed and heted that formula and presented to the republicans a program which was basically
. going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy, it will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes, to replace the sequester, and pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only one was a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect the american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it's time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they are really willing to make. i'll take a few questions. it's been very clear over the last year and a half, i talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budget. where we outline very specific proposals that we have in last year's budget and the budget from the year before. we know what the menu
that the republicans passed two bills that take care of the fiscal cliff. they extend of the tax cuts and a change the sequestration. the democrats hammer them on that each time. they are not going to give the democrats a chance to hammer them once again. host: our democrats putting deductions and loopholes and specifically on the table? guest: yes, the president has been very specific. he has said, first things first, let's let the high end tax cuts expire and lock in these trillion dollars savings. then he says on deductions, let's cap the major ones, the mortgage interest, the charitable, the state allen local -- and local. the banker's comments of getting 35% subsidy on the mortgage, he will get 20%. -- 28%. and then there are tax cuts in medicare, but they are reasonable. if you do not do these tax deductions and you do not do the high end incumbent bush tax cuts, it gets in devastated. the ryan budget was very back loaded. and it was not in the first 10 years. there are trade-offs. host: maverick writes in and said, i see a problem giving tax -- a problem with giving tax credits for hiring u
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avoiding the fiscal cliff. new polling suggests support for president obama's position in the standoff with congressional republicans. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check her life line. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills and, i mean, you know, that's for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she is not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people out of work more than 26 weeks.
. >> this weekend you can talk with oklahoma senator about the fiscal cliff and the future of the republican party. the senator has written several books and reports including his latest the debt bomb. join our conversation live sunday at noon eastern an c-span2. >> vice president biden shop t at the opening of the first costco warehouse in the nation's capitol. he also made remarks about the fiscal cliff and middle class tax cuts. >> i went to get my wife's card and she said no, you get your own. [inaudible conversation] >> i know what i am looking for. [inaudible conversation] >> vice-president, what are you shopping for? >> my wife is starting a thing called book buddies for women's shelters and daycare centers. i am buying a bunch of books for the book buddies back in delaware. >> how are you choosing your books? >> based on some things i know my grand kids like. will i come to that side? i'm going to come around that way. in this store.s in this storfos take 2200 books out of their income next year. [inauible conversation] >> how are you? >> i'm fine. thank you. [inaudible conversation] hey,
obama's i'm going to call it slap in the face to the republicans on the fiscal cliff. check the price of oil. 88 a barrel, up a little. lisp to this, we've got a huge drop in the birth rate in the united states. the recession may be to blame. 64 births per 1,000 women of chile baring age, 15-44 in 2010. that's about half of what it was in the peak of the baby boom 1957. the birth rate is way down. liz macdonald and gerri willis are here on this subject. do you have any idea what's going on here? >> well, two sides could help explain that. first of all, mexico, for example, is doing better than it has been, fewer immigrants coming from mexico. there's a draw there right now going on in that country and here is the other thing, in this recession, two things that typically don't get hit as typically they got hit this time around. housing construction where immigrants work and farms where immigrants come in, so, these people who would typically work in these professions had their income quashed, left the country and lower birth rate. >> a great point. and when you have a lopsided society
they want to go into a fiscal cliff. they believe there will be a short recession and at the end of the recession the economy will go sky high and people well railize that big government is good soup. they believe that use, you have a >> we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy issue and clearly the information given to the american people was wrong. and in fact ambassador rice said today it was wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers we got and we didn't get, certainly overwhelming evidence. >> he is a member of the senate foreign relations committee which would consider the confirmation of ambassador susan rice if the president were to nominate ambassador rice to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. but senator johnny isaacson of georgia said he would not confirm her. why? >> i don't think she is confirmable right now because of the lack of information we have on the entire benghazi issue, from the administration. susan rice is the tip of the sphere. the administration has put her there. there are unanswered qu
and they said unless republicans break the no-tax pledge they want to go into a fiscal cliff. they believe there will be a short recession and at the end of the recession the economy will go sky high and people well railize that big government is good soup. they believe that use, you have a twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >> we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy issue and clearly the information given to the american people was wrong. and in fact ambassador rice said today it was wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers we got and we
it is with these republicans. >> it's safer if you're on the progressive end of the political spectrum to go over the fiscal cliff than it is to agree to some of the things they're talking about. >> ruth, where do you stand, deal or no deal? >> not who deal, but who are more pessimistic. the clock is really ticking. about ten legislative days left in the year. outlines are there but the willingness to do it and the ability to get it done in time, i'm more disappointed than i thought i would be at this point. on the other hand, this is the moment of posturing. so it could all come together at the last moment. a christmas present. >> there has been plenty of that. tim geithner, he's going out to talk to these leaders. what does he say, for example, in these meetings with reed and t reid and the other leaders? >> opening line is it's dangerous to get over the cliff so let's get there. my reporters tell me there are contours to a deal. the senate democrats moving a little on entitlements. a day after dick durbin number two democrat said we shouldn't talk about entitlements in the fiscal cliff deal. i'm hearing
to avoid the fiscal cliff took a new turn today. treasury secretary tim geithner making a bold prediction that the republicans will go along with a tax hike for the healthy. but it certainly didn't sound that way on the other side. what is at stake for the average american family? with 30 days to go until the deadline? david kerley at the white house tonight. >> reporter: president obama and his white house team appear confident with the stronger hand in talks with house republicans, demanding and believing tax rates for the wealthy are going up. >> there is no responsible way we can govern the country with those low rates in place for future generations. those rates are going to have to go up. >> i was flabbergasted. i look at him and i said, you can't be serious. >> reporter: the two sides are seriously far apart. the president wants $1.6 billion in new tax revenue over ten years. the speaker wants half that. the president wants spending cuts, $600 billion. to medicare and other programs. not enough, says the speaker. >> if we gave the president 1.6 trillion of more money, what do you t
there is a big overplay by the democrats on this blaming the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. if you look back to 2010, a lot of buttons were pushed and thought it would be blamed on the republicans. short term blame on the republicans, long-term blame on the incumbent in office. >> all i can say, two years, november of 2014, is the next time for an election. 365 times 2, basically. a lot of memory loss there, you know, if both sides dig in. ultimately, president owns whatever happens at this point. >> exactly. in 2014, it's what happens then, not what happens in 2012. >> let's talk about today's ism. oh, my goodness, the low since '09 -- the employment index as you were study, give details. >> lowest in september '09, trending down since april. a lot of these numbers, obviously written off to sandy. but you really have to look. april 12th -- or april of '012, we didn't have a hurricane, it was trending down. is it because employers are nervous about what's going on, the nonsense going on in d.c. right now? and they're holding back on any decisions? i think it's more that than sandy.
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at this with a great deal of optimism. >> i think we're going over the fiscal cliff. it's pretty clear that they have made this happen. they are not saving social security and medicare and medicaid from imminent bankruptcy. jenna: james is live in washington with more. reporter: yes, what is clear is increasingly, the two sides -- the obama, white house, senate democrats on one side, senate republicans on the other, there is a ticking clock involved here. they should be hitting their stride right about now. timothy geithner is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: en
put on the table by the republicans and the democrats on how to deal with the fiscal cliff dealing with the issue of social security and medicare. social security, no, not part of this problem. something we'll deal with perhaps in the next congress or even in the one beyond that because we do have time to deal with social security. medicare, for those who want to privatize medicare, end it as we know it with a voucher or premium support program, no, no how are we going to go there. for those who want to work on changing the way in which medicare operates, to get saving such as drug -- negotiating drug prices, dealing with fraud and abuse, the various payment systems that are in medicare, all of which can save money and to continue, continue the work of the affordable health care act in the way it has already brought the inflation rate from the 4% to 5% down to the 2%, 2.5% range, this is an extraordinary savings right here and that will be calculated in the years ahead. this will add up to tens -- frankly, this will add up to hundreds of billions of dollars in the reduction in the
it to pound these republicans into coming on a sensible deal on the fiscal cliff? got the power. use it or lose it. >> this is the full court press, "the bill press show," live on your radio, and on current tv. [ music ] that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. we've got to get done in this current tv.smocks [ music ] [ music ] >> this is "the bill press show" >> bill: here we go 26 minutes after the hour on a friday, friday, november 30th. my latest column is about this susan rice nonsense. heading my column is: what did susan rice know? and when did she know it? check out the column at billpressshow.com. we are talking about president obama won this election overwhelmingly when everybody said he didn't have a chance getting re-elected. of course, first we start out with joe biden at costco yesterday, peter. >> he want to costco. we are tweeting at bpshow. one person says romney was at the white
a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is a counter offer to president obama's plan. g.o.p. lawmakers proposed raising $800 billion in revenue from tax reform, not higher tax rates, but the white house immediately slammed the offer and said it won't even consider it, and tonight speaker boehner responds to the white house response saying it's now up to the president to come up with a plan. congressman allen west joins us. good evening. >> how are you doing? >> greta: very well. the white house is unimpressed by the proposal from the speaker and the white house republicans. >> the white house needs to go back and do case studies whe. you look at presidents cool imagidgeand kennedy, they went % down to 24%. kennedy went from 91% down to 71% and they increased revenue. what we're talking about is not what the president of the united states is looking at with wealth redistribution. we're talking about wealth expansion and economic growth and sound economic policies to do that. if you want to continue to believe that 250,000 dollars makes someone rich, you're going to crush these small bus
the country goes over the fiscal cliff goes by, more and more republicans have joined our chorus. they recognize that the willing misto compromise sooner has put them in a real bind. so reasonable republicans are asking the house leadership to allow a vote on the senate-passed legislation. what was once a trickle has become more of a flood. last week republican representative tom cole said it was time to give middle-class families certainty their taxes won't go up by $2,200 on average on january 1. then tim scott from north carolina ad admitted that the senate-passed tax cut will surely pass the house since it will take only 26 republican ren votes for passage. i don't most of the time agree with david brooks but no one can dispute this columnist for "the new york times" is brilliant in writing. he's a great, great journalist and explains things so well. i really have great admiration for him. he wrote yesterday, "republicans have to realize they are going to have to cave in on tax rates." that's the way it is, mr. president. "they're going to have to cave on tax rates." then on
the other side of this fiscal cliff negotiations and those are cuts. bowles told reporters yesterday it seemed as though republicans were clear there's a need for revenue and democrats need to recognize the need for entitlement reform. what exactly do you think, if you can peer into your crystal ball, what's exactly on the table here. you know, are we going to get -- >> i can't see the crystal ball. it's in the studio. >> are we going to get significant entitlement reform or are we probably going to be left with at best maybe raising the retirement age for social security or raising the eligibility age for medicare? >> you know, i'd be very surprised to see social security be a part of the discussion here. >> at all? >> because it's not really kind of a huge driver of the deficit we're talking about right now. it's really the health care programs. but i think if you just pull back and make it really simple for a second, what you see are the democrats are saying, wait a second. increasing taxes a little bit on the rich or significantly on the rich, however you want to look at it, is p
deposing wants to vote. - vote nancy pelosi . >> with a so-called fiscal cliff and higher taxes for all americans looming. >> right now i will say we are nowhere. >> the house speaker blamed the stalemate on the obama administration. he said they are not taking republicans seriously with plans to close loopholes and limited deductions without raising taxes. >> off the president may disagree but the fact is if there is a another way to get revenue from upper income americans that does not hurt our economy why would we not consider it. >> the president wants to in the bush era tax cuts for people making more than a quarter of a million dollars per year. the average middle-class public to pay about 2000 a year more in taxes. >> there is no reason why 98 percent of americans have to see their taxes go up because some members of congress on the republican side want to block tax rate increases for 2 percent of the most wealthy americans. >> nancy pelosi pushing for a house vote. >> we think it would be a wonderful christmas gift for the american people to receive a tax cut in january. >> we a
to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. it's one of the reasons why we believe that we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. to avert this crisis. >> now, to be fair, speaker boehner did not want to lay out a bunch of spending cuts on camera, at least. he says he will save those discussions, those negotiations for his talks with the president. shep. >> shepard: those are always behind closed doors, those spending cut talks. mike emanuel at the rotunda at the russell building. thanks. if you win tonight's power ball jackpot you can stop worrying about anything washington does go. out and buy your own country and make your own laws. tonight's jackpot is now $550 million. that's a record for power ball and the second highest lottery jackpot ever in our country. lottery officials say tickets are selling at a rate of, get this: 130,000 tickets per minute. and a lot of people say they already know what they are going to do if they win. >> i would go away and hide for a little bit. >> some of it it is going to go to charity. and then it's going to
one didn't come down and hit me over the head and knock me out. apple. if we're going off the fiscal cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man more now rather than later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes perfect economic sense. so the stock gets hammered. it makes sense to sell it. but let's be less emotional and even clinical about this one. first, divide apple's share price by ten, now you have a stock that got crushed down to $54. when you do that, it isn't all that scary, is it? where does the pessimism fit in? when we have to endure the pin the tail on the selloff game, what excuses for the selloff myriad alibis i hear from today's action. apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mi
. for the top 1%. i just don't see any changes from the fiscal cliff that is coming up. guest: i think there are big changes coming up. i think the president has drawn a line in the sand and let republicans know he has no intention of allowing the tax rates for the wealthiest americans to be extended again. they were extended in 2010, but i feel there is a new resolve on the part of the white house to not let that happen again. i'm not sure if all the rates will be increased as much as the president would like. it could be that they get bumped up by a point or two, instead of the 45 that he wants to increase them by. -- four or five that he wants to increase them by. if nothing changes, then tax rates go up for everybody, which would be a very big change, but i do not think that is going to happen. host: here is a tweet. christian churches are not the only ones affected by deductions. holiday donations, how is that factoring into the fiscal cliff? is there anything going on that's give them more of an argument? are they coming to washington like everyone else to have their point of vie
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